tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post216313466781378399..comments2024-03-03T13:02:17.380-05:00Comments on Listen Eggroll: SMS dialogue between Noomi Rapace and an Engineermd'ahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06055853987416332662noreply@blogger.comBlogger126125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-57038901586975692662012-10-13T03:45:52.907-04:002012-10-13T03:45:52.907-04:00Earth wasn't the only planet that the engineer...Earth wasn't the only planet that the engineers seeded. There were hundreds even thousands of planets that they seeded. Time to time they checked on each one comparing them to each other. <br /><br />They were not happy with what they found on Earth. War, politicans, car saleman, etc. They sure as hell didn't want us to contamiate their other worlds so they decided to clean house on Earth before we invented interplantary space travel.<br /><br />They planed to infect us with enought xenomorphs to kill off 7 billon humans. That was plan A. For some reason they went with plan B. Less risky I imagine.<br /><br />Plan B was to kill off all human life on Earth another way. They made a Sun, named WR204 which was 8000 light years from Earth to go nova. When a Sun goes nova one of two things happens. It eithers becomes a gamma ray generator or it doesn't.<br /><br />Gamma rays cannot be stopped. They goes through everything. Lead, stone, dirt, water everything. It also kills all life. Its like a microwave oven.<br /><br />WR204 gamma rays are going to hit Earth on 21 Dec 2012 the same day the Mayan calendar ends.<br /><br />My question is, How in frack did the Mayans know this?<br /><br />Have a nice day.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-1422397357489666712012-10-11T23:43:48.690-04:002012-10-11T23:43:48.690-04:00Here, here!Here, here!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-7858416192467857262012-10-11T23:40:39.565-04:002012-10-11T23:40:39.565-04:00What I don't understand is why your alluding t...What I don't understand is why your alluding that we are simpletons and don't get the movie?! You're really stretching it here. <br /><br />You contradict yourself in your first point. Prometheus creates life intentionally,thus it's planned not accidental. Study your mythology. <br /><br />Ridley Scott said this is any planet. The fact is these Engineers are seeders of life on other planets.<br /><br /> And FYI, depictions of The Christian God are based on Zeus - human like form which is oversized. So we still worship an oversized God. <br /><br />For the last time, Scott stated Prometheus is NOT related to ALIEN. it's not a prequel. They're not related at all. They're simply nods to his ALIEN franchise. <br /><br />Lastly, Dr. Shaw is not the virgin Mary baring the start of the xenomorphs. Their existence pre-dated 2093. There's a statue of them in the "temple". <br /><br /> I don't know where you're getting the rest of this stuff. <br /><br />You appear to be making this movie deeper than it is. Really stretching here. Brilliant...hm...that's a stretch as well. It leaves questions unanswered and seems to lack cohesive thinking, but the videography and special effects are good. <br /><br />I do agree with the bit regarding David's hair etc. and the bit about the sequel(s) answering possible questions, but I truly am having a hard time seeing your completely off base plot viewpoints. <br /><br />For someone who argues "this is just a MOVIE" you are certainly giving it much thought. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-46313588974455086292012-10-11T23:01:01.592-04:002012-10-11T23:01:01.592-04:00Seriously! Did no one pay attention to when he was...Seriously! Did no one pay attention to when he was EATING while watching LOA?!?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-49211787253203711452012-10-11T22:58:10.392-04:002012-10-11T22:58:10.392-04:00@sean Sebastian
Sorry... Wrong person. This wasn&...@sean Sebastian <br />Sorry... Wrong person. This wasn't a reply to your comment. Although, your opinion gives pause for thought. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-28247534654403845222012-10-11T22:55:04.786-04:002012-10-11T22:55:04.786-04:00Scott has already stated this is NOT an ALIEN fran...Scott has already stated this is NOT an ALIEN franchise bit. It nods at the franchise, but is NOT a prequel. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-23648016005559964612012-08-02T03:30:18.646-04:002012-08-02T03:30:18.646-04:00She's asking what the point was of the maps de...She's asking what the point was of the maps depicted by ancient cultures which gave the location of LV whatever. She's not asking why the Engineers have holographic cartography on their ships.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-85780917100493327362012-08-02T03:24:50.733-04:002012-08-02T03:24:50.733-04:00It's not the same wreck, just the same species...It's not the same wreck, just the same species wrecked on a different world.<br />They also ret-conned the engineers a hell of a lot smaller than the "space jockey" was in Alien. They were like 9 feet tall instead of 20.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-21796504254051503962012-08-02T03:19:51.279-04:002012-08-02T03:19:51.279-04:00While I prefer your idea that the engineer in the ...While I prefer your idea that the engineer in the opening scene was actually trying to sabotage the mission 2000 years ago, Scott has already stated that it was an engineer seeing a planet which was not necessarily Earth with life. In deleted shots from that scene, there are many other engineers standing around watching this ceremony, many of hem visibly older looking than the ones we see in the rest of the film.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-33300406631731149092012-08-02T03:11:03.856-04:002012-08-02T03:11:03.856-04:00Why was there a big stone head at all? If there wa...Why was there a big stone head at all? If there was some outbreak in the building which the humans just happen to have walked into, what happened to the engineers in the many other identical buildings we see near it as the Prometheus is landing? Did anyone making this film know or care? Or did it just look cool?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-73972904813930021642012-08-02T03:07:44.735-04:002012-08-02T03:07:44.735-04:00It actually makes a lot of sense that Engineers wo...It actually makes a lot of sense that Engineers would test their bio weapons on us, since we have the same DNA. However, all of this factional talk is completely read into the story by Internet commenters. Is it possible, given the boundaries set by the film? Yes. Is it even close to being suggested in the film? No.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-23841886731266150502012-08-02T03:02:14.985-04:002012-08-02T03:02:14.985-04:00This depends on how much faith you have in the dir...This depends on how much faith you have in the director/writers. If you think the unanswered questions are part of a whole which makes sense when all is revealed in the sequel, then they aren't plot holes. If, however, you think a lot of the story was half sketched and not completely thought through, and that it's contradictions and unanswered questions are just the result of a script that was not subjected to rigorous editing before being filmed, then they are plot holes.<br />This was the same argument that Lost fans had to wonder about for years, and in the end we learned that the writers were just making it up as they went along.<br /><br />It seems like it would be infinitely easier and cheaper to get the script right than to get the visuals so perfect, and yet that never seems to be the case in any movie involving the least bit of a sci-fi element. I truly wonder what it must be like to be on the set of a film where dozens of crew have spend massive time and money to prepare a certain scene, and the director has no explanation as to why they are shooting that scene or what is going on other than it looks cool.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-2509750693847595242012-08-02T02:49:34.795-04:002012-08-02T02:49:34.795-04:00The xenomorph was depicted on the wall of the room...The xenomorph was depicted on the wall of the room with the jars and stone head, and that room had been built at least 2000 years ago. <br />The one we see at the end is not the first.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-56872679557080951862012-08-02T02:44:35.581-04:002012-08-02T02:44:35.581-04:00There are pictures of the xenomorph on the wall of...There are pictures of the xenomorph on the wall of the stone head room early on in the film. The one at the end isn't the first.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-1954210991473932322012-08-02T02:38:01.982-04:002012-08-02T02:38:01.982-04:00Or how about the fact that the creature she remove...Or how about the fact that the creature she removes from herself is so much larger, and seemingly heavier, later on, despite not having had food to consume from which to add that mass.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-22434263368561220032012-08-02T02:29:35.221-04:002012-08-02T02:29:35.221-04:00I thought the whole Jesus connection was just some...I thought the whole Jesus connection was just something the creators of the film agreed was an interesting argument that you could make, as opposed to the actual story they were trying to tell. <br />The Hawaiian star map also post-dates the aborted attack from 2000 years ago, so either that's a very important piece of info, or an incredibly sloppy oversight in production. <br />There was a whole dialogue between David and the Engineer which didn't make the film. Maybe that will explain a lot, although F Ridley Scott of we have to pay to see the film, and then pay to see the Blu-ray for it to make sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-4933395589344503862012-08-02T02:18:35.648-04:002012-08-02T02:18:35.648-04:00I keep seeing people describe the creature that co...I keep seeing people describe the creature that comes out of the engineer at the end as the first "Alien", but there was a mural depicting one in the Big Stone Head room, so they were already around.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-29450695117072344632012-08-01T14:42:30.517-04:002012-08-01T14:42:30.517-04:00Hair bleach was brought on-board for Charlize Ther...Hair bleach was brought on-board for Charlize Theron's touch-ups.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-79825661354950909612012-07-05T00:54:01.328-04:002012-07-05T00:54:01.328-04:00It's not "plot holes" that I object ...It's not "plot holes" that I object to in this movie; a hole can always be filled in a subsequent story. It's flat-out foolishness that cannot in any way be made to make sense. Like sending out a 3 trillion dollar ship with a tiny crew of people *who have never met each other before*, let alone worked together learning how to fly the 3T ship, which also has -- some kind of secret Fifth Avenue apartment for a secret passenger complete with a secret (? WTF?) support crew in their own uniforms that nobody has noticed through anomalies in instrument read-outs. Like "scientists" who find a monster head lying in an alien structure and respond with, "Quick, let's zip it up in a big ol' plastic bag and take it back into our ship with us"? WHAT? There's just not an ounce of sense in anything these characters do; that's not a "plot hole". It's a big, fat, irreparable fistful of fail.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-31058519705189818932012-07-04T23:35:44.065-04:002012-07-04T23:35:44.065-04:00Doesn't the star maps question have a pretty e...Doesn't the star maps question have a pretty easy answer? <br /><br />There are factions of engineers who decided to create humanity. Hypothetically, an engineer or engineers drank the black stuff and died. And then later on other engineers influenced the creation of the cave paintings. <br /><br />They shared a map to their home planets with the human race. But by the time some humans actually made it there those planets have been relegated to use as a weapons storage facility, possibly by virtue of the fact that they've been contaminated with the organisms the engineers have created as weapons.<br /><br />So, perhaps the engineers did live on those planets at the time the star maps were created but at the time Prometheus visits they don't.<br /><br />There's actually some great potential for further exploration into the engineers. Everything they create kills them (the xenomorphs in their various forms, humans (when they kill Jesus :), when Shaw offers the engineer up to the xenomorph)), they don't know who made them, either, and they've had even more time to become frustrated with the answers they don't have about life.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17821624992709863358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-48832032089514378702012-06-26T11:11:01.573-04:002012-06-26T11:11:01.573-04:00" Remember how a cloned Ripley still containe..." Remember how a cloned Ripley still contained fragments of alien DNA in Resurrection? This black stuff stays with a species, changing it generation after generation. "<br /><br />This is actually a pretty good way to write things out of the basic problem: the black stuff is a microscopic alternative to regular DNA, shaping and guiding it over time. It doesn't really resolve all the other problems, but it certainly provides a plausible explanation.<br /><br />Too bad the screenwriters didn't provide more basis for it onscreen. But maybe they will in "Prometheuses."Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16041394892925909244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-51959885219287662032012-06-26T11:07:35.564-04:002012-06-26T11:07:35.564-04:00"So it's "bad science" to sugge..."So it's "bad science" to suggest that human DNA can be broken down and ultimately evolve back into human DNA (with slightly differently results), but it's "good science" to suggest what current evolutionary theory basically suggests?"<br /><br />Yes it's bad science, and no it doesn't suggest that. <br /><br />It makes no evolutionary sense to say that human DNA can be "broken down" and then you get micro-organisms that eventually evolve back into what you started with. Evolution is a one-way trip, bounded and shaped by very specific historical contingency: the stuff in modern cells is at the end of a very long, tortuous path of ancient cells adapting and changing and accumulating new, datable changes that are molded to adapt to particular environments (which also change over time). There's not a complete copy of Promethian beings hiding in the DNA of every single creature on earth just waiting to jump out, and it makes no sense to imply that there even could be.<br /><br />The movie, of course, makes it even worse by implying that humans are RECENTLY descended from the Promethian beings, as if we're just another very recent offshoot branch like chimpanzees are to the rest of the great apes. That makes no sense at all to the fact that all life is derived from Promethians.<br /><br />Of course, it makes it even, even worse by saying we're a "100%" match. While it might be possible that there are environmental things that can be done to the same genetic code that will result in a Promethian being vs. a human being... it's still daft.<br /><br />But... I still thought it was a pretty good flick. Gorgeous. Just not something you can think too hard about. Like I said, I think that's why they kill off the biologist in such a stupid way, just to basically give a middle-finger to anyone raising obvious objections.Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16041394892925909244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-86178847959224712692012-06-26T10:58:46.267-04:002012-06-26T10:58:46.267-04:00I think it's a nice touch that the only charac...I think it's a nice touch that the only character to object to the ridiculous impossibility of the genetics thing is quickly killed off for being a completely incompetent, utterly pointless idiot.Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16041394892925909244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-1530980008609880232012-06-24T04:38:12.574-04:002012-06-24T04:38:12.574-04:00Nobody is gonna be fucked explaining evolutionary ...Nobody is gonna be fucked explaining evolutionary theory to a dumb creationist troll. Hows that for an explanation of why you won't get an explanation?<br /><br />Great movie BTW. Nonsense, but only later when i had time to think.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-10440381418337166822012-06-21T16:28:39.502-04:002012-06-21T16:28:39.502-04:00So it's "bad science" to suggest tha...So it's "bad science" to suggest that human DNA can be broken down and ultimately evolve back into human DNA (with slightly differently results), but it's "good science" to suggest what current evolutionary theory basically suggests? Help me understand this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com