tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post4904398043209147324..comments2024-03-25T21:14:21.671-04:00Comments on Listen Eggroll: Skandies: #6md'ahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06055853987416332662noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-78234378598828363362007-02-13T13:39:00.000-05:002007-02-13T13:39:00.000-05:00I didn't see that scene as cinematic "low-hanging ...I didn't see that scene as cinematic "low-hanging fruit" at all. The whole story was told with child-like simplicity, as fairy tales should be.<BR/><BR/>The finger-wagging fairies were an important element in the scene as they became the victims of the girl's selfishness and stubbornness. They raised the stakes and helped fuel Faun's anger at Ofelia post-Pale Man.<BR/><BR/>Also, their demise reveals that Ofelia may be willing to let innocents die in her place--something that helps intensify the moment with the baby in the lair.<BR/><BR/>If you want to get Biblical with it in addition to the Eve reference, the finger-wagging fairies (guardian angels?) died trying to save Ofelia from her sins. Booya.Nictatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12174200071752059810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-88171610303899557842007-02-13T07:59:00.000-05:002007-02-13T07:59:00.000-05:00When Sight and Sound interviewed him, del Toro sai...When <I>Sight and Sound</I> interviewed him, del Toro said he'd put that "forbidden fruit" scene in precisely because it was such a universal trope in fairy tales. But with Ofelia getting finger-wagging reprimands right at the point of picking the food up it doesn't really work except as dream logic, and it ought to be rather more ambiguous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-50447552125194078252007-02-12T18:39:00.000-05:002007-02-12T18:39:00.000-05:00For what it's worth, I know that particular sequen...For what it's worth, I know that particular sequence of events -- hero is warned by supernatural being not to do and/or take something upon penalty of death, hero decides apropos of nothing to do and/or take that something anyway, hero manages not to die despite immediate danger -- is a trope employed several times in the tales of the Brothers Grimm. I took it as just one of many such reference Del Taco works into the screenplay.<BR/><BR/>That's not to say it's not dumb, just that it's dumbness with a history.Steve C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/01958138092537744506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-47858658890941751692007-02-12T16:20:00.000-05:002007-02-12T16:20:00.000-05:00ASTERISK, ASTERISK, ASTERISK!!!!!I DEMAND A RE-VOT...ASTERISK, ASTERISK, ASTERISK!!!!!<BR/><BR/>I DEMAND A RE-VOTE!!!!!<BR/><BR/>...<BR/><BR/>Victor goes to slit his other wrist ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-73585560039490754972007-02-12T16:17:00.000-05:002007-02-12T16:17:00.000-05:00I'd like to console you, but the difference betwee...I'd like to console you, but the difference between #6 and #5 this year was only two points.md'ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06055853987416332662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-75222649385699642162007-02-12T16:06:00.000-05:002007-02-12T16:06:00.000-05:00I guess I'll find out tomorrow, but I fear that my...I guess I'll find out tomorrow, but I fear that my tendency to egalitarianism in point distribution may have hurt Luc and Jean-Pierre. I rarely give (maybe once or twice per ballot) more than 20 points to anything, and if memory serves, I've given 30 points just twice (the Nolans' MEMENTO script and Kubrick's EWS direction).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-55196425620229721912007-02-12T16:00:00.000-05:002007-02-12T16:00:00.000-05:00The former.I didn't care for PAN'S LABYRINTH at al...The former.<BR/><BR/>I didn't care for PAN'S LABYRINTH at all. But yours and Matthew's plausability problems with that scene were the least of it. In fact, that specific scene seemed more too-obvious, if I were to complain about it. One could argue that it seemed too spot-on an echo of an account of some other chick grabbing fruit she was told not to eat. And it isn't as though PAN'S LABYRINTH (or at least that "half" of it, viewed in isolation) wasn't an attempt at something mythopoetic rather than something psychologicallly realistic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-1976886695536861362007-02-12T15:18:00.000-05:002007-02-12T15:18:00.000-05:00Over what? The Dardennes just missing the top five...Over what? The Dardennes just missing the top five again? Or did you hate the Pale Man scene?md'ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06055853987416332662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-43323107930608469112007-02-12T15:16:00.000-05:002007-02-12T15:16:00.000-05:00Victor goes to slit his wrists...Victor goes to slit his wrists...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8838733.post-18817122739606145092007-02-12T13:45:00.000-05:002007-02-12T13:45:00.000-05:00I thought that was pretty monumentally dumb myself...I thought that was pretty monumentally dumb myself, actually; my vote was strictly for what comes afterward.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com